Unpopular opinions

[Graeme]

It strikes me that either:

• Blatter has either been complicit in, or tolerated the alleged corruption. Therefore he cannot be taken seriously as the leader to clean up FIFA.

• He missed the signs that there was a bribery problem. In which case he's incompetent.

• He and FIFA are actually innocent and purer than the driven snow on the peaks of the Swiss Alps! In which case he doesn't need to resign, but it might be prudent to do so in order to allow the organisation to continue with a fresh face.

[Seul]

@Maynard:

That Blatter chap, he's not so bad really is he, the press have got the wrong end of the stick about him. I hope he gets a 6th term.

Not gonna happen ey 

[Black Orchid]

Yes, going, going, gone [emoji38] Ming is no longer…

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[Maynard Friedman]

Take Blatt! (and party…)

[Black Orchid]

@Maynard:

Take Blatt! (and party…)

Party [emoji2]

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[Finkster]

@Black:

Yes, going, going, gone [emoji38] Ming is no longer…

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^agreed

Get lost - corrupt bastard!

[Giles]

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7693.0

[injunjack]

shop built so called custom bikes suck big time.  You either do build your chopper/bobber your self in your own garage / backyard  or you don't brag about the result.

[Giles]

welcome back @injunjack

[Bob]

I was never happy with any of the work I farmed out (track, not road). Did all my own engine and suspension work, and even changed and balanced my own tires, as I considered it tantamount to packing one's own chute. But I did let a strange factory in a foreign land build the bike. @injunjack:

shop built so called custom bikes suck big time.  You either do build your chopper/bobber your self in your own garage / backyard  or you don't brag about the result.

[Bob]

I neither believe Team Sky's results, nor the results of the riders in and around their paddock.

[Megatron1505]

Someone needs to explain to me how Real McCoys doing Buco named gear is any different to the American clothing company who licensed the name Von Dutch?

And I won't be accepting "but Real McCoys stuff is really well made, in Japan" as answer. So are many brands who aren't riding the Buco name.

[dylantbmayes]

Is anyone claiming that it's not the same, @Megatron1505?

It's licensing…

[Snowy]

^Is this an issue somewhere Mega? Sounds like there's a backstory not here Mega??

[davito]

Whats the background/issue Gav? They licensed it, like freewheelers licensed stifel etc

[Megatron1505]

No back story.

[davito]

I believe rmc owns now the license for buco brand (bügeleisen) but as with our japanese friends sometimes it's a bit complicated to keep the overview

[Megatron1505]

Then I guess my point being that the licensing of an iconic brand name, particularly when that name represent an individual, seems a little shallow and vacuous whether it is Buco or Von Dutch.

I get that the execution is markedly different in terms of quality, but still…

I like that brands are influenced by the classics, that's why they are classics, and interpreting or tweaking is one thing, but adding a label bearing the mans name just comes off a little lame to me.

Unpopular opinion 

[dylantbmayes]

Was Buco not originally a brand though, started by Joseph Buegeleisen?

Von Dutch was an artist whose works were licensed and turned into a brand, like with Don Ed Hardy.

[Megatron1505]

Buco was an amalgamation of his name and the word corporation Bu-Co.

I understand the mechanics of why, I just don't think it's right.