Rugby
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Weird? what makes you say that?
what I find interesting is that it's not always the same team winning.
It's enjoyable although it is far from the 4 nations or the super 15 competitions in terms of speed, skill, intensity. When each team plays their traditional type of game, it is very entertaining because it is like going through the history of Europe.But a lot of games have become quite boring. I have to confess I was watching a super 15 game on youtube on my tablet while the France Scotland game was on on TV. And some NRL too. Cant fathom why Sonny Bill Williams went back to that code, but that question alone is worth a thread by itself.
What a nice talent being mismanaged. He could be the greatest AB of his era. But he is just a mercenary clown. His manager is a damager…
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Weird because all of these 6 Nation teams struggle with consistency and will play poorly, this is one of the key areas that make the All Blacks so good. Consistently good teams force you to be innovative (as you will see in the Super 15 & Tri Nations) otherwise you won’t survive. From an outsides view (and I might be a bit harsh) it seems like the 6 Nation games can be won because the other side played so badly?
… But I’m looking forward to watching the Lions tour. That is one great traditional team!
Don’t worry about Sonny Bill, Rene Ranger has been amazing this year and if he continues will almost certainly make the All Blacks. He scored this try a couple of weeks ago against those monsters from South Africa the Bulls.
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Weird because all of these 6 Nation teams struggle with consistency and will play poorly, this is one of the key areas that make the All Blacks so good. Consistently good teams force you to be innovative (as you will see in the Super 15 & Tri Nations) otherwise you won’t survive. From an outsides view (and I might be a bit harsh) it seems like the 6 Nation games can be won because the other side played so badly?
… But I’m looking forward to watching the Lions tour. That is one great traditional team!
Don’t worry about Sonny Bill, Rene Ranger has been amazing this year and if he continues will almost certainly make the All Blacks. He scored this try a couple of weeks ago against those monsters from South Africa the Bulls.
You are so totally right about consistency or lack thereof. In a normal world, France and England should be winning the tournament every year. Thats why all but one world cup went to a southern team.
Regarding the south, I'm totally awed by the depth of talent in addition to skills, speed, etc… I mean, look at France, we keep using winger Vincent Clerc (dont get me wrong, I love the guy) who is 30 without launching those 21-20 year old kids. The only one new face this year in the back rows is 18 year old Gael Fickou, who should leave Toulouse and go play 3-4 years in NZ to become the best in the world.
Lets get delirious for a moment: if I was president of the French rugby league, I'd spend some of the mountain of money they get from TV rights to pay NZ provinces to train a squad of 10-15 promising players from the age of 18 to 21, send our coaches to NZ to study for a year or two how rugby should be coached, etc... And NZ should open rugby universities and make a tonload of money teaching the rest of the world how to play rugby. They might end up not winning the RWC, though...
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The try is great, but the offload to Ranger is spectacular. Love it, love it love it
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Jerry Collins: I hope he's going to be alright
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Some seriously badasss rugby here
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Clermont - Munster HCup semi final was a good game yesterday.
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Hemi: Blues or Crusaders?
What do NZ bookies say?
If I had more cash, I would have flown to go see it, but … -
Just saw that the Blues got sold to an investment fund
I hope this is not the end of NZ Rugby as I have come to appreciate it.
It will be interesting to see if other franchises are going this way and how it will affect the Rugby scene in NZ (and therefore the rest of the world)
It could mean that NZ is able to retain more players if new money is spent on increasing salaries to match France and England… -
Its been on the cards for a while… NZ Rugby can't survive without some type of private investment, we're just too small. I think only one Provincial team makes a tiny profit each year and the rest trade at a loss or break even at best. One of the oldest Unions had to be bailed out last year after facing bankruptcy.
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This side of the universe Toulon beat Clermont in the Euro Cup final. Defense + Wilkinson overcame offense. I was gutted.
Next week semis for the French championship my team Toulouse will probably suffer the same fate vs Toulon, while Clermont will crush Castres. So we could have a rematch of the Euro for the French final.
Anyway, wouldnt it be great if there was a final between the Euro winner and the Super 15? It happened once unofficially in 1997 and the NZ team crushed Brives. And wouldnt it be nice if there was a euro Super 15? These national championships drag on and on and are not as exciting as Eu games…
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Hemi, a quick question for you:
nowadays, we see quite a number of League players thriving (Folau being the latest sensation) in Union.
Do you know if there are similar successes the other way round (Union guys trying League and becoming "superbad" in League)?
Here in France, there is nobody I can think of, and I dont think there are examples in England, where League is a force (unlike here).
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Crusaders: Wyatt Crockett, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Luke Romano, Sam Whitelock, George Whitelock, Matt Todd, Kieran Read
, Andy Ellis, Dan Carter, Zac Guildford, Tom Taylor, Ryan Crotty, Tom Marshall, Israel Dagg. Reserves: Ben Funnell/Laurence Corlett, Dominic Bird, Luke Whitelock, Willi Heinz, Robbie Fruean, Telusa Veianu.Chiefs: Robbie Robinson, Patrick Osborne, Charlie Ngatai, Bundee Aki, Asaeli Tikoirotuma, Aaron Cruden, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Matt Vant Leven, Tanerau Latimer, Liam Messam, Brodie Retallick, Craig Clarke (c), Ben Tameifuna, Hika Elliot, Pauliasi Manu. Reserves: Mahonri Schwalger, Toby Smith, Michael Fitzgerald, Sam Cane, Augustine Pulu, Dan Waenga, Lelia Masaga.
any of these would win the 6 Nations easy and would be a contender for at least the semi finals of the Rugby World Cup
Fruean on the bench: fucking frightening! I love NZ rugby
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Most of us grow up playing Rugby and Rugby League here, then you choose one. The problem with Rugby League attracting Rugby converts (apart from Rugby is now professional) is that there is only one competition that's any good and its in Australia with only one team from Auckland, New Zealand. Their aren't as many pathways and international League is not as competitive as Rugby in fact we still consider the State of Origin three game series between Queensland and New South Wales as the pinicle of League and NZ's aren't eligible.
But before Rugby went professional many guy's switched to League to earn a living and it was unheard of to switch the other way.
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now, saturday's NZ-France was a bloodbath. inexorability at its best
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cant wait for the trination to start and watch SA-NZ games. Mammoth teams, yet two different approaches to Rugby
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Hasn't Sonny Bill Williams recently switched to League in Australia?
